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Chris and Jason celebrate the "Friend of the Lab" title and lament the pain involved in repeatedly delivering a poor punch line (or watching someone else do so).
Chris quizzes Jason over the five most full democracies and the five most authoritarian regimes based on five criteria.
Then the two interview New York City mayoral candidate, Art Chang. Art talks about why he's running and spells out some specific systemic changes he plans to make to avoid past mistakes and push the city into the 21st century technologically.
Art talks about his work for the last four mayors and his work in organizational change with JP Morgan Chase, as well as the importance of empathy in the process of making the city work for everyone.
Quiz soundtrack, Giulia's Chase, © 2020 by Casting Nail.
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